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#34 Podcasts and Audiobooks for a Better Marriage


Today Grace and Zach share a variety of audiobooks and podcasts that may help you in your marriage and life. This week’s “We’re in it With Ya” story is of a conversation in which Zach used communication tactics he’s learning from “Never Split the Difference: Negotiating as if Your Life Depended on It” by Chris Voss with Tahl Raz (2:40). 


Our hosting couple first shares several podcasts and podcast episodes. The initial few are episodes from Dax Shepherd’s podcast series “Experts on Experts.” The interviews are as follows:

John Gottman (on his research about what predicts happy marriages)

Esther Perel (on sex)

Jennifer Newsom (on gender roles and stereotypes)

Adam Grant (on introversion, criticism, and more)

Grace also recommends these podcasts:

The Betrayed, the Addicted, and the Expert” with Ashlynn and Coby (a couple) and Brannon (a therapist)

The Rise Together Podcast” with Rachel and Dave Hollis

Mormon Marriages” with Angilyn and Nate Bagley

Grace HIGHLY recommends this episode on motherhood from the podcast “Q.More” with Rosemary Card and Dr. Julie Hanks:

The Highest and Holiest Calling

Next are audiobooks that can all be found on Audible. 

“The Good News about Marriage” by Shaunti Feldhahn and Tally Whitehead - A research-based book debunking negative myths on marriage. 

“The Power of Vulnerability” by Brene Brown - A collection of live speeches by a shame researcher. If feelings are not your favorite place to be, give Brene Brown a shot. Grace and Zach would not be married without her.

“The Gifts of Imperfection” by Brene Brown (narrated by someone else) - A foundational book for Brene’s work. 

“Daring Greatly” by Brene Brown - Focuses on the strength and importance of vulnerability. 

“Men, Women, and Worthiness: The Experience of Shame and the Power of Being Enough” by Brene Brown - A collection of live recordings on how men and women experience shame differently, and how they enforce each other’s shame stories.

“To Have and to Hold: Motherhood, Marriage, and the Modern Dilemma” by Molly Millwood - Shares research and information on how to better make the transition into parenthood as a couple. 

“Real Love: the truth about finding unconditional love and fulfilling relationships” by Greg Baer

“The Four Tendencies: The indispensable personality profiles that reveal how to make your life better (and other people’s lives better, too)” by Gretchen Rubin - A highly useful book profiling how different people are motivated. Grace and Zach talked about it in Episode 20.

“The Five Love Languages: the secret to love that lasts” by Gary Chapman - Required reading if you have any loved ones.


Grace and Zach end by wishing you happy holidays! Thanks for listening. If you enjoy this podcast, it would mean the world to Grace if you did one of two things to help other people find it: either screenshot this episode and share it , or leave a rating and review on iTunes. It makes a big difference! You can connect with the podcast on Instagram @thenewlywedshow and the show’s host @gracewjensen. Thank you again. 

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